Urdu: Meaning of ؀

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I am curious to know the meaning of the sign
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that sometimes appears in Urdu Ghazals. Is there some reference material where such things are listed? Like this one: ؀ ? Thanks.
 
    • Urdu: ء after years

    Urdu: san hijri

    The first sign could be an abbreviation for سنۃ sanah (year) and the second one عیسٰوی if I am not mistaken. I think our marrish SaaHib mentioned these abbreviations in another thread but I can't seem to find it. Our Alfaaz SaaHib is the ultimate authority on finding past threads. Perhaps both of them could offer their assistance.

    There is a system of reckoning in Urdu called raqam, now almost forgotten, where numerals are given a kind of shorthand symbols. This system was used in business transactions. Your first symbols looks as if it could be 60.
     
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    Qureshpor said:
    Urdu: ء after years

    Urdu: san hijri

    The first sign could be an abbreviation for سنۃ sanah (year) and the second one عیسٰوی if I am not mistaken. I think our marrish SaaHib mentioned these abbreviations in another thread but I can't seem to find it. Our Alfaaz SaaHib is the ultimate authority on finding past threads. Perhaps both of them could offer their assistance.

    There is a system of reckoning in Urdu called raqam, now almost forgotten, where numerals are given a kind of shorthand symbols. This system was used in business transactions. Your first symbols looks as if it could be 60.
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    Here’s a screenshot with the first symbol in my post in context:
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    Trust this helps.
     
    Well, I think we should wait for any responses from marrish and Alfaaz SaaHibaan. All I would add is that the symbol repreaents that a shi3r follows this symbol and it is a quote. What page are these two symbols on?
     
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    Qureshpor said:
    Well, I think we should wait for any responses from marrish and Alfaaz SaaHibaan. All I would add is that the symbol repreaents that a shi3r follows this symbol and it is a quote. What page are these two symbols on?
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    The first symbol, figuring above the shi3r, is on p.335 of ChiraaGhoN kaa dhuaaN by Intezar Hussain. The second symbol is in my urdu keyboard but I do not remember the context in which I saw it.
    Isn’t there some symbol that is placed over proper names/pseudonyms?
    The symbol, shortened form of ع that is placed after the year in Christian era, also figures after the name of the writer * ابنِ انشا. But my keyboard does not contain that symbol (shortened ع). Can I then write ابنِ انشاع?
     
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    Yes, this symbol is being used before everytime a couplet is being quoted.

    No انشاء which in reallity is ان شاء (agar us ne chaahaa).... as in ان شاء اللہ ( agar Allah ne chaahaa). In Urdu this is written as joined انشاء. Writing it as انشاع would be wrong.
     
    Qureshpor said:
    Yes, this symbol is being used before everytime a couplet is being quoted.

    No انشاء which in reallity is ان شاء (agar us ne chaahaa).... as in ان شاء اللہ ( agar Allah ne chaahaa). In Urdu this is written as joined انشاء. Writing it as انشاع would be wrong.
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    Thanks, Qureshpor SaaHib, for explaining ان شاء اللہ. The ء does figure in my keyboard.
     
    ؀ ؀ ؀ ؀
    ARABIC NUMBER SIGN

    ؂ ؂ ؂ ؂
    ARABIC FOOTNOTE MARKER

    ؁ ؁ ؁
    ARABIC SIGN SANAH

    ء ء ء

    ARABIC LETTER HAMZA

    ؃ ؃ ؃
    ARABIC SIGN SAFHA

    ؎ ؎ ؎ ؎ ؎
    ARABIC POETIC VERSE SIGN

    ؏ ؏ ؏ ؏
    ARABIC SIGN MISRA

    ؔ ؔ ؔ
    ARABIC SIGN TAKHALLUS
     
    Thanks for this comprehensive list of signs, marrish SaaHib. :) Footnote marker and poetic verse sign seem to be identical.
     
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